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lianabluestar		#41	[-]
Posts: 1171 (07/12/2009 17:26:05) Ultimate Ironhide Luvr Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That's boring. I'm glad they didn't do that. Now to find the toys the next time I'm in a store . . . ~Liana I guarantee nothing. -- Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard), Thir13en Ghosts Yeah, I like Autobots. They're especially good . . . on toast! http://www.geocities.com/legendschildren Favourite muffins: Vash, Ironhide, Inuyasha, Frodo Baggins, Speed Racer, Kenshin Himura, K, Fayt, Elijah Wood, Brendan Fraser, and Frenzy "Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night. Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night . . . Rebels are we!" <--------- There's an evil monkey in my closet!! Really! There is!
Winnie		#42	[-]
Posts: 3 (07/14/2009 11:32:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I loved it. Actually, if it weren't for RotF, I wouldn't be getting into Transformers fandom now. My boyfriend isn't what you'd call a fanboy, but he liked the first movie and wanted to see the second, so we went together. I rather thought that I'd be bored silly throughout. I mean, really, I never thought I'd go in for the giant robot alien thing. I have never been more wrong in my life. I loved it. To pieces. Maybe I'm a little biased, because I tend to like movies with lots of gunfire and explosions, but I thought it was awesome. I loved the characters, I loved the humor, I loved the action. I realize there were holes in the plot and some general stupidity, but I'm not really bothered by that. I could follow it, and I could (and did!) enjoy it immensely. In fact, I enjoyed it enough that I spent the next day scouring every Target and Walmart in the city until I found a copy of the first movie. XD Summer flick though it is, I think there will always be a special place in my heart for Revenge of the Fallen. After all, it is what introduced me to Transformers, and I have the sneaking suspicion that I'm not going to be losing interest any time soon.
lianabluestar		#43	[-]
Posts: 1172 (07/14/2009 17:07:42) Ultimate Ironhide Luvr Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Winnie wrote: I loved it. Actually, if it weren't for RotF, I wouldn't be getting into Transformers fandom now. My boyfriend isn't what you'd call a fanboy, but he liked the first movie and wanted to see the second, so we went together. I rather thought that I'd be bored silly throughout. I mean, really, I never thought I'd go in for the giant robot alien thing. I have never been more wrong in my life. I loved it. To pieces. Maybe I'm a little biased, because I tend to like movies with lots of gunfire and explosions, but I thought it was awesome. I loved the characters, I loved the humor, I loved the action. I realize there were holes in the plot and some general stupidity, but I'm not really bothered by that. I could follow it, and I could (and did!) enjoy it immensely. In fact, I enjoyed it enough that I spent the next day scouring every Target and Walmart in the city until I found a copy of the first movie. XD Summer flick though it is, I think there will always be a special place in my heart for Revenge of the Fallen. After all, it is what introduced me to Transformers, and I have the sneaking suspicion that I'm not going to be losing interest any time soon. I think I'd better clarify . . . since I did enjoy the second movie despite the huge plotholes I noticed . . . I meant it was boring about the Arcee "triplets" having something akin to a hive mind. That's boring. It's been done, and, if a person wants to get really, really, REALLY technical about it . . . all of the Transformers have a "hive" mind in these movies. Sensing when the others are mobilizing? Isn't that similar to a hive mindset? ~Liana I guarantee nothing. -- Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard), Thir13en Ghosts Yeah, I like Autobots. They're especially good . . . on toast! http://www.geocities.com/legendschildren Favourite muffins: Vash, Ironhide, Inuyasha, Frodo Baggins, Speed Racer, Kenshin Himura, K, Fayt, Elijah Wood, Brendan Fraser, and Frenzy "Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night. Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night . . . Rebels are we!" <--------- There's an evil monkey in my closet!! Really! There is!
Winnie		#44	[-]
Posts: 6 (07/14/2009 18:56:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	lianabluestar wrote: Winnie wrote: I loved it. Actually, if it weren't for RotF, I wouldn't be getting into Transformers fandom now. My boyfriend isn't what you'd call a fanboy, but he liked the first movie and wanted to see the second, so we went together. I rather thought that I'd be bored silly throughout. I mean, really, I never thought I'd go in for the giant robot alien thing. I have never been more wrong in my life. I loved it. To pieces. Maybe I'm a little biased, because I tend to like movies with lots of gunfire and explosions, but I thought it was awesome. I loved the characters, I loved the humor, I loved the action. I realize there were holes in the plot and some general stupidity, but I'm not really bothered by that. I could follow it, and I could (and did!) enjoy it immensely. In fact, I enjoyed it enough that I spent the next day scouring every Target and Walmart in the city until I found a copy of the first movie. XD Summer flick though it is, I think there will always be a special place in my heart for Revenge of the Fallen. After all, it is what introduced me to Transformers, and I have the sneaking suspicion that I'm not going to be losing interest any time soon. I think I'd better clarify . . . since I did enjoy the second movie despite the huge plotholes I noticed . . . I meant it was boring about the Arcee "triplets" having something akin to a hive mind. That's boring. It's been done, and, if a person wants to get really, really, REALLY technical about it . . . all of the Transformers have a "hive" mind in these movies. Sensing when the others are mobilizing? Isn't that similar to a hive mindset? I pretty much figured that was what you'd meant. And, really, I'd probably agree with you if I was a little less giddy about it. Being an old Trekkie, hive-minds don't impress me anymore. They just wig me out. Start adding cubes into the mix and...Yeah. XD
MidNight Blue		#45	[-]
Posts: 3 (07/15/2009 13:24:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	So now that I've had a good amount of time to gather my nerdiness of RotF, have to say, it was good. In a general entertainment way, (unless you've sat fifthteen feet from the speakers which were fuzzing from the loudness >.<) I wasn't impressed much with the Arcee triplets much, and to me the overall 'feel' was too many characters without anything other than standing room. Not that they all have to speak, it just most seemed like they could have been utilized more. The 'dead' coming back unexplainably was a stretch for me too. In a general entertainment way it was a good movie, as I stated above. 'Is it a bad thing when you look at your friends and all you see are easy targets?" ~Villingur
Dogcatcher2009	Loved it warts and all	#46	[-]
Posts: 1 (07/17/2009 22:08:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Heh - I loved it, warts and all. Too bad I had to watch it with a really drunk guy sitting two seats over from me. I swear he would not shut up throughtout the whole darn movie...
Winnie		#47	[-]
Posts: 8 (07/18/2009 22:31:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dogcatcher2009 wrote: Heh - I loved it, warts and all. Too bad I had to watch it with a really drunk guy sitting two seats over from me. I swear he would not shut up throughtout the whole darn movie... Did we, perhaps, see it in the same theater? There was some drunken lout clogging up my movie experience as well. Lucky for me, he was a few rows away. >_> Also, I agree with MidNight Blue. Upon watching it again, it does seem a little like they tried to cram in too many extra characters. They didn't really have the time to even give some of them an introduction. It was almost like they just said "Oooh, we need this guy, and this guy, and the fans LOVE that one..."
Dogcatcher2009		#48	[-]
Posts: 5 (07/19/2009 07:23:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Winnie - It must be a new thing: get really hammered, go to a movie, and ruin the experience for everyone. Either that or these two morons were trying out for MST3K The New Series, if there were such a thing... I live in a Western podunk town. There isn't much to do here except drink and go to movies. Some people combine the two. I really liked what they did with Sideswipe. I wish we could have seen more of him and Bumblebee.
lianabluestar		#49	[-]
Posts: 1173 (07/19/2009 08:16:29) Ultimate Ironhide Luvr Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dogcatcher2009 wrote: Winnie - It must be a new thing: get really hammered, go to a movie, and ruin the experience for everyone. Either that or these two morons were trying out for MST3K The New Series, if there were such a thing... I live in a Western podunk town. There isn't much to do here except drink and go to movies. Some people combine the two. I really liked what they did with Sideswipe. I wish we could have seen more of him and Bumblebee. Actually, getting drunk and going to the movies isn't anything new. My dad went to see Star Wars on the day I was born (after I was born, of course), and some drunk guy was sitting in the front row. I guess his reaction was quite amusing, especially when the first Star Destroyer came onto the screen. ^_^ As for the Arcee triplets . . . gee, I wonder why they went with Arcee for the Femmebot rather than Elita-1 . . . ~Liana I guarantee nothing. -- Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard), Thir13en Ghosts Yeah, I like Autobots. They're especially good . . . on toast! http://www.geocities.com/legendschildren Favourite muffins: Vash, Ironhide, Inuyasha, Frodo Baggins, Speed Racer, Kenshin Himura, K, Fayt, Elijah Wood, Brendan Fraser, and Frenzy "Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night. Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night . . . Rebels are we!" <--------- There's an evil monkey in my closet!! Really! There is!
Winnie		#50	[-]
Posts: 9 (07/19/2009 11:51:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dogcatcher2009 wrote: Winnie - It must be a new thing: get really hammered, go to a movie, and ruin the experience for everyone. Either that or these two morons were trying out for MST3K The New Series, if there were such a thing... I live in a Western podunk town. There isn't much to do here except drink and go to movies. Some people combine the two. I really liked what they did with Sideswipe. I wish we could have seen more of him and Bumblebee. Even in largeish cities like the one I live in, half the time there's nothing better for people to do but get drunk or go to the movies. >_>;; I still only have a vague idea of who Sideswipe is outside of the movieverse, but I liked what little we saw of him. "Damn, I'm good." XD Yes, I think I'd have liked to see more of him. And, of course, more Bumblebee is always a good thing. He's just too adorable for words. X3 Also, @lianabluestar: What're you getting at about Arcee versus Elita-1? /noobquestion I only have a vauge idea of who Elita-1 is as well, but I think I would have liked to see her in the movie.
Dogcatcher2009		#51	[-]
Posts: 6 (07/19/2009 12:22:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Elita-1 was the leader of the female Autobots in the G1 cartoon. She was okay but I always felt that Arcee was a better character. I was glad to see her in the film.
lianabluestar		#52	[-]
Posts: 1174 (07/23/2009 15:00:17) Ultimate Ironhide Luvr Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	What Dogcatcher2009 said. The thing is, if you want to get very technical about the Femmebot equation of the fandom, both Arcee and Elita-1 play very pivotal roles (in that everyone wrotes mostly about them than the other Femmes - Elita because she's Prime's girlfriend, Arcee because she had more airtime). I simply find it ironic that, though Elita was one of the first to be introduced to the G1 canon, they chose Arcee instead. ^_^ ~Liana I guarantee nothing. -- Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard), Thir13en Ghosts Yeah, I like Autobots. They're especially good . . . on toast! http://www.geocities.com/legendschildren Favourite muffins: Vash, Ironhide, Inuyasha, Frodo Baggins, Speed Racer, Kenshin Himura, K, Fayt, Elijah Wood, Brendan Fraser, and Frenzy "Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night. Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night . . . Rebels are we!" <--------- There's an evil monkey in my closet!! Really! There is!
Winnie		#53	[-]
Posts: 13 (07/23/2009 19:33:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Obviously, no one wanted to deal with the horror of trying to fit both Sam/Mikaela and Optimus/Elita into the movie. They had enough plot problems as it is. XD
lianabluestar		#54	[-]
Posts: 1177 (07/24/2009 19:33:34) Ultimate Ironhide Luvr Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Too true. Too true. ~Liana I guarantee nothing. -- Dennis Rafkin (Matthew Lillard), Thir13en Ghosts Yeah, I like Autobots. They're especially good . . . on toast! http://www.geocities.com/legendschildren Favourite muffins: Vash, Ironhide, Inuyasha, Frodo Baggins, Speed Racer, Kenshin Himura, K, Fayt, Elijah Wood, Brendan Fraser, and Frenzy "Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night. Such is the bread of an everyday life, from morning to noon to the shadowless night . . . Rebels are we!" <--------- There's an evil monkey in my closet!! Really! There is!
HorseTechie		#55	[-]
Posts: 8126 (07/26/2009 13:02:18) Whatever makes you think I'm trying to conquor the Cell with Minicons? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh hai! I'm not dead yet! And wouldja believe it? I managed to see the movie before it came out to DVD too! I am liking only parts of it, and also disliking the rest. At least it satisfied my itching curiousity about it! The trailers and the Chevy display was all I seen before the movie, I had not seen anything else to clue me in on who was what. Also missed the first 10 minutes of the movie, which I hear had a good chunk of Autobot action. sigh Would have loved to see more of a rounded out TF characterization, and less of the craptacular gag-shots. The trailers and leaked snippets alone seemed a lot cooler than the entire movie itself. Yes, I am convinced the Mr. Bay and the script writers for this movie have no sense of what makes for good comedy. After all, hubby and I were fans of movies like Dumb and Dumber, the first three American Pie movies, and Harold and Kumar go to Whitecastle. But these Bay-former movies? Ugh... it made an already jam-packed movie feel more cluttered abd distracting,like some things were thrown in there as an afterthought. Also found Skids and Mudflap to be annoying for similar reasons. What was their purpose? I rather would have had more of Sideswipe and Jolt by far. (My wishful thinking was that the Twins got caught up in Jetfire's stargate.) As for the black stereotype... bad portrayal again, me thinks. Other black-sounding characters in movies like Mulan and Shrek were great. Or in Cars, also riddled with stereotype. These movies had good writers so that stereotyped characters like Donkey and Mater did well in bringing out the best from the lead char. Fortunatley, this movie wasn't completely full of weak characters. I really admire Shia's talent to play his characters well. It even surprise me more that despite all the crude humor riddled in this movie, Sam did well resisting this to keep his own morality intact. Which makes for a clear foundation to base from when the Primes judge his own character. That Sam is indeed a true gentleman with a good heart. ~~As well as a virgin.~~ That redeeming quality about this movie is awesome... we need more characters like this. (aka I'm a Bayverse SamxMikaela and Bee fan, can you tell?) Mikaela wasn't too bad either... but I could tell after seeing the college scenes that it was clear this movie was all about the eye candy. Every single girl present was 'very easy' to look at. Hardly anyone who was ugly or overweight was visible anywhere! (Sam's mother excluded) Yeah... I felt for poor Bee though... getting treated like a misbehaving 5 year old when all he wanted to do is help. It was still damn funny when he stood up for Sam in helpng get rid of the 'flirting' she-bot. (off thought... was Alice a Dcon from the start, or did she get swapped Terminator-style later? Seems like if she had been a Dcon all the time, wouldn't Bee had noticed this?) Oh, and "Wait, I have wetnaps!" (have to be a mother with little kids to find that funny) Soundwave and kin - very cool! Smooth voice and clever (creepy) alt mode. Jetfire - also awesome. Not to hard to look at, funny, and a better developed character than others. Heck, he practically steals the show! XD Devastator - In the trailer, I was just shivering with his badassery. Vaccumming up sand like nobody's business, only imagining what more damage he could do. But in the movie... sigh I agree, putting him up against a bunch of idiots (Simmons exculded) really cheapened him up. Especially after seeing Mr. Binks bang his way out of there. Story - First impression while watching trailer... sounds a lot like an Indiana Jones flick. After seeing the whole film.... Dude where's my car crossed with IJ and Terminator. With some sprinkling of G1, Armada/Energon and Dreamwave. Such as... A/E... searching for things. Semi organic details. Sparks seperate from body so that they could be revived from devine sources. Jetfire combining with Optimus. Tentactles! Ancient primes protecting something precious. Spontaneous spacebridge gates. Annoying cadet age robots, grumpy old bots. Arcee as a motorcycle.... DW ... The Fallen, like srlsy WTF? Looks better with the fire, definitely. Or having more omnicent soul-controlling Unicron badness. His headdress looked pretty though. Squishy hatchlings in pods... Yeah, where did I see that before too? I'm also left with that itching quesiton... what did they do with the shard of Allspark that Sam dropped and gave to Mikeala? I can't remember if this was what they obtained to use to revive Megatron with.... Also.. is there talk of athird? The way they ended that movie, it felt like it. :\| DeviantART \| Live Journal \| Fanfic Stuff \|:
Quallevra		#56	[-]
Posts: 536 (07/26/2009 17:06:16) Sorta Fanatic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sam used that shard to wake Jetfire up. I published a book! It's a fantasy novel called "Darkland" and it's available from Amazon. Go buy it!
Orphanstar		#57	[-]
Posts: 32 (08/01/2009 23:25:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	They are making a third movie aren't they for release in 2011? As for this one - it could have been worse but it also could have been a lot better. Not a patch on the forst one for plot, characterisation and impact. It's great reading eveybody's comments. here's my dollarsworth: An essentially weak plot; a whole load of side stories and unnecessary characters which one got the impression were there for special effects demo and future toy sales Identity problems - too much like it was trying to morph into Star Wars - "my apprentice" and cutesy Spielbergish type characters. The Fallen was suspiciously like Sauron in Lord of the Rings General characterisation was poor. Best were Starscream, Bumblebee and Simmonds. Arcee and Sideswipe awesome - but you hardly saw them. Ditto Scorponok. Ravage was great - and at least had more than a bit part. The twins were ghastly. And the names! At least there was only one of Jar Jar Binks. I know the movies couldn't be expected to follow G1 by the letter but if there were going to be twins in there at all then it should have been Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, surely. They could have been made into really good characters. At the very least I wouldn't have cringed in my seat. Starscream's paint job was fabulous. Starscream was fabulous. But where were TC and Skywarp? I can't believe they brought out the toys and then didn't put them in the movie The hatchling concept was fascinating. Hatchling is a better word than Sparkling. Interesting to see what the FF world makes of it. Scene with Screamer dragging the dead one around very surreal. Some of the human stuff was embarrassing - ie the pitiful scene where Sam's Mum gets stoned and where Wheelie ruts Michaela's leg and she says to Sam "at least he's faithful." Please! Sam's parents came across as goofballs and that was a shame. I couldn't really work out how they happened to be at the pyramids either Ending inconclusive and too many characters just disappeared Megatron was a shadow of his former self. He had no balls (a topical analogy - the movie makers were obsessed with the latter, apparently) That was clever of Jetfire, knocking up a spacebridge just like that At least we know Transformers do cry actual tears now. I needn't have bothered with the thread on the subject! Agree best line "Starscream I'm home!" That actually made it all worth while
HorseTechie		#58	[-]
Posts: 8127 (08/07/2009 10:17:54) Whatever makes you think I'm trying to conquor the Cell with Minicons? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Actually, a rouge Deception in the masses crashing to earth grabbed Sam's parents from Paris to bait Sam with when they got to Egypt. (whoo.. I figured out that much in this film!) Quallevra wrote: Sam used that shard to wake Jetfire up. Ah.. yeah. ponders Was that shard then completed depensed when it woke up Jetfire.. or did it still exist after? then wonders what good is the Allspark shard now that the Matrix suddenly held even more importance in this movie.. aside from being used to blow up the sun ...is it me, or did anyone else actually wanted to see that sun-gun get activated... only to have it melt into molten goo (like the one in the G1 ep, FotM) ...? Cause if Jetfire was all but a shamble... how do they expect that weapon to still be fully operational after all these years? :\| DeviantART \| Live Journal \| Fanfic Stuff \|: Last Edited By: HorseTechie 08/07/2009 10:19:55. Edited 1 times.
Mako Crab		#59	[-]
Posts: 165 (08/08/2009 11:41:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I love this review. http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php
Kayevcee		#60	[-]
Posts: 5651 (08/09/2009 11:00:39) Every hen's dream! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It does sort of cover all the bases, doesn't it? I thought ROTF was unutterable dreck from beginning to end with only a few shining moments of glory (such as any time Jetfire was on screen). None of the new characters (human or robot) bar Jetfire served any plot purpose or was in any way likeable. No, that's not fair- I actually liked the Fallen because he was so ludicrously over-the-top and cheesy, but they could have given his entire role to Megatron without even changing the name of the film. Ah well. It probably doesn't help that I saw G.I. Joe last night, and the whole thing was basically a 'how-to' guide for turning a kooky children's property into a highly entertaining slam-bang action movie with good humour and subtle fanservice and withOUT giant, swinging robot testicles. I wonder if Steven Sommers is doing anything in 2011... -Nick ------------------------------------ If you can't learn to do something well, learn how to enjoy doing it badly.

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